true_it_is ([info]true_it_is) wrote,

Ranking Indian universities using scholar.google.com

Yesterday, I did a quick look at what scholar.google.com says about alternative IITs. I got email asking what this meant for other Indian universities. I also got much anger about "what do these numbers mean".

I looked harder and I found that my "superstar" notions are wrong. What is happening is that some other paper, which has a lot of cites, ends up being picked up. So I recommend you ignore the "superstar" notion of the paper with the highest number of cites.

But the number of hits on scholar.google.com is a notion of footprint, of impact. A superior university is one where the faculty and alumni write more, get written-about more, etc. It is a good measure of influence and university-quality.

Things get nasty when you use generic strings that can have other meanings. I think it's safe to search for "Indian Institute of Technology" but if you said "IIT" you would get many wrong hits.

Very well. If I just focus on the number of hits on scholar.google.com, then here is a sorted list of the universities:

CampusNumber of hits
Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore12,900
IIT Bombay10,704
IIT Delhi10,324
IIT Madras9,523
IIT Kanpur7,370
Delhi University7,320
IIT Kharagpur6,728
University of Madras5,370
Calcutta University4,400
IIM, Ahmedabad2,550
JNU2,770
Bombay University3,040
IIT Roorkee1,018
IIT Guwahati618
IIM, Calcutta622
IIM, Bangalore568
IIM, Lucknow124

I see one clear cluster of four good universities: IISc, IITB, IITD, IITM. These four are clearly in one league. Then there appears to be a second tier consisting of IITK, DU, IITKgp. And then there is everyone else. It's striking how badly the IIMs fare.

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Anonymous

September 3 2005, 18:40:20 UTC 6 years ago

Similar and dissimilar to this one

It looks similar to a five-year old listing by Asiaweek http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/features/universities2000/rank_country/#5

Anonymous

October 25 2005, 19:22:36 UTC 6 years ago

Ranking of IIT's

Its not a good idea to judge IIT's only on the basis of hits. recently India Today carried a survey to find the best technical institute in India. The result was obviousky IITK which strangely lies in the second rung of your list.

Anonymous

December 1 2005, 06:27:34 UTC 6 years ago

Re: Ranking of IIT's

You ignorant Mororn,
Did you search for University of Roorkee in Google Scholar?
Do that and you will know IITR is not behind.. infact way ahead.
Dont forget IITR was erstwhile UOR.

Anonymous

November 9 2005, 04:17:16 UTC 6 years ago

Normalization .. heard of it??

1. For Roorkee, try adding "University" "Roorkee" to your current search to acknowledge its existence before it changed its name to IIT.

2. Know that there is ECE and EE department in Roorkee, while Kanpur has only EE department (in reaction to yesterday).

3. Try normalizing the citations by student enrolment or faculty strength. This is remove the bias of large universities that have low per capita reasearch output, and it will indeed put Roorkee just marginally behind the "old 5". Amazing how it can do this inspite of having a much lower absolute number of US-bound engineers !!!

4. In short, be informed, and do your research well before posting it on the public domain.

Anonymous

November 9 2005, 16:30:32 UTC 6 years ago

Method

Your method is nice because anybody can verify it "on the fly". However, for the same reason the flaw is also obvious.
My guess is that you are a master's student in the US who did his BS from one of the IITs. One piece of gratuitous advice - the purpose of an investigation is to uncover the truth, not to devise methods that merely confirm your preexisting prejudices (which is evident from your subjective statements, and the method you have chosen). This advice should help you in your thesis work.

Anonymous

November 27 2005, 22:09:10 UTC 6 years ago

true it is u dumb

Anonymous

January 31 2006, 11:22:52 UTC 6 years ago

Ranking of Indian Universities

Any ranking of World class Indian Universities seems to be absolutely irrelevant if BHU is not included in the same. BHU is a true world clss institution having all major disciplines under the same university banner (a true character of a world class University that institutions like JNU lack) and is a major international Indian brand. The alumni of this premier institution have occupied and are occupying places of high esteem both in the corporate and academicia world wide.

B.Mukherjee, IIT Kharagpur

Anonymous

February 11 2006, 08:44:27 UTC 6 years ago

Rubbish

IIT's are all equal.Infact the btech programme in all the IIT's is same.The difference comes when you include mtech and phd courses.

Anonymous

May 15 2006, 11:35:15 UTC 6 years ago

Re: Rubbish

Ur postage is not only rubbish but its utter bullsh**t!! Did you booze while posting this? How can u put inst. like IIT Guwahati or IIM L so low (even lower than Madras University or Mumbai University!!! Holy Jesus! Mumbai University is a second grade University producing PhDs who hi-jack others' thesis and give an 'umchi-mumbai' tag to it like the famous music directors of Bollywood!!Mumbai University has nothing but an imperial history and a St.Xaviers College!!) and never mention of a world reknowned university like BHU or TISS?? U must go and see a psychriatist as soon as possible.
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